Feeling crampy, bloated and depressed is usually a distraction from my connection with the Gods. I'm not Dianic and my my period is not some great big spiritual thing. I'd imagine such a person would be excluded because they now identify as male.īut it identity is enough to get you out, it should be enough to get you in. Of course, you could say that about female-to-male transgendered person. I guess they draw the line with people who have had a period at some time in their lives (?). What about women who have had historectomies? How about genetic conditions that cause them to not menstruate? What about Crones? Of course their transition into that phase is considered sacred. I get where they are coming from but the lines they draw seem arbitrary. The priestess' argument was that trans women cannot participate in the Blood Mysteries. Personally, I would like to think that a person's spirit weighs more than their genetics in cases like this. I do agree that the response seems to have been both rapid and respectful/concerned. This makes me uncomfortable, but as I've said I don't know much about Dianic worship. The segregated thinking here is -again to me- uncomfortably close to the kind of thinking that justifies or permits the denigration or separation of any person based on an aspect they have no control over, whether that be skin tone, gender, freckles, eye color etc. However, if such a purchase does not necessarily include participation then it's a very gray area indeed. My first reaction was WTF how rude! But, I'm pretty unfamiliar with Dianic practices (aside from the generalizations and bad jokes) so there may be something I'm missing regarding that but, as has already been said, if purchasing entrance to Pantheacon explicitly includes entrance or participation in the ritual then limiting such participation is wrong. Help Fund Our Server? Donate to Lyricfox's Cancer Fund? Read our Rules and Policies and the Quoting Guidelines. You will need to register and/or login to participate in our discussions. Mods: I think this is worthy of the front page. I thought people might be interested in having a discussion on this as things unfold. Dianic Elder Ruth Barrett is saying that such a policy will make it impossible for her to hold events and the con. Some people are calling for a non-discrimination policy at PantheaCon rituals. Jason Pitzl-Waters of "The Wild Hunt" is also going to be doing a story. She says that she's going to be uploading the whole recording once the reporter who is writing the story has a chance to take notes on the whole thing. I actually got a response from the person who did the recording. I emailed them to see when it would be up. I checked their website as soon as I got home and saw that this recording wasn't on there yet. The entire event was recorded by the Bay Area Pagan Newswire Collective Bureau. The people organizing the debate were given a very large room on the spur of the moment. I was alarmed by the discriminatory practices but impressed by the rapid response of the Panthea Con organizers. Two good friends of mine were there, and we met for lunch after the discussion. The organizers did their best to get it out to everyone but I guess somehow I managed to miss it. The discussion was not published in the bulletin but was announced in a small flyer. Dianic elders were there, along with many transgendered Pagans and their allies within the community.Īrticle from one of the event's organizers. Monday afternoon, an open discussion was held in the Fir Ballroom. Transgendered advocates fought to have the issue addressed by the PantheaCon organizers. They were told that only "Women born women" were welcome. Several transgendered women attempted to get in, and were turned away. On Saturday night a Dianic coven held a ritual to Lilith. Well, I had a very interesting PantheaCon.
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